Playing Games with Noobs

monoblocc posted 1 month ago

Recently, I introduced fighting games to one of my friends. We're currently playing BBtag, and it's pretty fun. He seems to have a good time playing, and he knows basic information on how to play. Our matches are pretty good and even considering that we both don't really know the game well.

There's an issue though however; over long periods of playing, I tend to understand his play style better and I'm able to predict his game play. And on top of that, I recently picked up a heavy zoning character (Vatista for those who are interested), and it's highly discouraging to him. He keeps referring to my play style as "spamming", when it's actually just how the character is supposed to be played. The character relies on keeping the opponent out by using heavy zoning.

I want him to be still interested in the game, but I want to continue playing this character. Why do noobs get so frustrated at "spamming" when they're just not good? It's frustrating that he blames the character and how it's played instead of his own skill level.

Any thoughts?

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jacob posted 1 month ago

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Reminds me of when I play Bowser against you. Try telling him to get good or offer to switch to playing Mario party if he can’t take it. That usually does the trick for me.

Best,

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jacob posted 1 month ago

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In earnest though, I think you can approach the situation in a couple of ways, but this is the line I would take.

1. First tell him he's a noob for thinking like that.
2. Tell him some clear things to over come the strat, nothing too subtle or technical. Like tell him it's pretty obvious to block when you're in range and he's not, and you guys are in neutral.
3. If he is still seriously struggling, wreck him without using the spamming strat using a different character, and explain to him that it's not the character.
4. Offer playing a different game.

jacob posted 1 month ago

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In earnest earnest though, without calling him a noob. You could pick up a different character. I know you said you wanted to keep playing Vatista, but I think this is a small sacrifice for keeping your friend invested into the game. And once he's good enough to play against spam, you can switch back.

Best of luck,

monoblocc posted 1 month ago

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yeah for the most part, i just lessen the amount of zoning i do. i mix it up now, and when i'm about to lose, i'll just put up the zoning heavy. he doesn't take the loses hard and i don't really give him a hard time, so it's pretty good rn.

jacob posted 1 month ago

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Sounds like you're not giving him full credit by going easy on him.
I guess different strokes for different folks, but I'd be pissed if I found out you were going easy on me to prevent me from tilting.

monoblocc posted 1 month ago

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well, i think my experience with this type of gameplay far exceeds his own. It's like being a pro at it and completely dominating a noob. It's hard enough for him to get his moves out because of how fast the game is, so i think going easy on him will level the playing field to promote growth. If i used 100% of my power, he would never be able to get in, and when he does he probably wouldn't know what to do. Only a psychopath would want to do that a million times over :p

jacob posted 1 month ago

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I think it's well established that fighting games are designed for psychopaths, no?

monoblocc posted 1 month ago

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sexy psychopaths? :p

jacob posted 1 month ago

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Is that Plab's calling card?

monoblocc posted 1 month ago

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i'm not sure. i'd ask her about it if she'd let me flipping follow her twitter.

jacob posted 1 month ago

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:p